look charlie kirk payed the ultimate price. he was censored. being killed is worse than being censored. but hell never get to have those discussions which is very sad. and at a time where censorship is increasing in most places around the world. o reily constantly says things that would get him taken off the air if he was on network. but we would never think about taking him off the air.
all kimmel said was pointlessly that the killer was conservative. political violence doesnt make sense. political violence makes someone despised in america. in any case this is a good time to discuss ending political violence and ending censorship.
basically the first amendment doesn't allow the government to censor speech except in rare circumstances which is not what kimmel said. we all say hateful speech. hate speech and hateful speech are not the same thing. I think kimmel was sick of walking on his tiptoes over the climate in america over all the assassinations weve had. trump is ruining the country. but you also need to be respectful to charlie kirk who is no longer be able to convince the world what he believes.
there may be a reason to fine kimmel. but his speech shouldnt be censored. a lot of us wondered how anyone could think political violence would be supported by anyone. it makes absolutely no sense to me.
No one has censored Kimmel's speech: his bosses have let him go because he is a growing liability for their business. No one has the "Right" to have an unsuccessful and unfunny late night show and be paid millions to lose your network's money.
See this is not true it was stupid for me to post. This is absolutely not true. When the FCC censors speech it's not ratings that cause it. What Kimmel said is that charlie kirks killer was conservative. He was not censored. He was shot. He came from a red county in a red state he was one of you. Personally I did think it was possible that the killer could have been trying to frame someone just because we don't reward political violence in this country. Were disgusted by that person and all they represent. The FCC chair called the comments disgusting and called for swift action which caused all television networks to pull the show temporarily. But no this is not a case of a statement being unpopular and the network pulling it. The pulling of the show wasn't justified. But still we should be trying to come together as a country and denounce political violence hatred and now censorship. Honesty is the only way to move forward as a country
The FBI had already established through texts and family witnesses and friends that the assassin IS a deranged leftist. Jimmy Kimmel knew this and yet deliberately lied for political reasons about an ongoing murder investigation. He was taken off the air by ABC and the Disney corporation for deliberately lying about murder.
The show hasn't been profitable for a long time. It will only be even less profitable now. Kimmel isn't worth what he costs the network- so he's gone. It's just that simple. Television is a for-profit business, not a charity.
By the way- "He came from a red county in a red state he was one of you.": There are many people on the left whose families are mostly conservative Republicans. Ever heard of teenage rebellion? The political leanings of his immediate family members don't automatically make him a Trump supporter.
I agree but personally I think political violence doesn't advance a cause in America. What it does is it makes everyone hate everything that person stood for and all they represent. That behind closed doors is why I think he could have been trying to frame someone. But I don't know Kimmel viewpoint. I think it's a little ridiculous that we have to destroy a viewpoint everytime a killer has it. It's getting to the point where framing someone could be a legitimate motive. It's getting hard to believe that anyone in America would support political violence
You haven’t visited any social media site apparently, because they are full of people on the left celebrating murder and assassination. Making lists of who should be next.
I don't know what you're talking about. You can air south park from the hours of 10 pm to 6 am. I think Kimmel statements were wrong. We've got to stop as a country destroying a viewpoint just because a murderer had it I don't think in his time slot he's not necessarily allowed to say crass things you can get away with a decent amount but I don't know the difference between cable at 10 pm and network at 10 pm
You said:
“ It's getting hard to believe that anyone in America would support political violence”
I was pointing out that there are at least many thousands on the left that do and they do it openly.
Rosanne Barr was fired from a number one show for statements she made outside of that show. Employers may fire employees for nearly any reason they choose. Jimmie told a blatant lie. The kid isn’t MAGA because his dad was. All evidence says he is a radicalized leftist and obviously very confused.
Well said and true . . . but it means nothing to these excuses-making leftist fanatics whom are incapable of accepting facts and evidence and truth when they run counter to their leftist political narratives.
Your understanding of the first Amendment is flawed. The first amendment does not allow you to say whatever you want whenever you want without consequence. If your employer doesn’t like what you say. You can be fired. Period.
The first amendment protects you from government arrest, not from real world consequences. When broadcasting on the public airwaves you have a license and that license has requirements.
Jimmy Kimmel knowingly lied to the nation on air AS a representative of ABC about an ongoing murder investigation, witch is against FCC rules and may result in ABC losing its broadcast license. The firing wasn't censorship of freedom of speech it was instead fully justified under the law.
On air about for political reasons about an ongoing murder investigation. For some reason the Political Left shut down before getting to the rest of that.
There may have been one or two doing that, but the vast majority simply warned the increasingly violent leftist collective that they were pushing the nation toward civil war. Just out of curiosity, are you capable of grasping the difference? No pressure.
With meme after meme and in comment after comment; and nary a leftist said anything about that -- except of course for the occasional AGREEMENT. But then again it has been established for a very long time now that NOTHING is ever wrong when leftists do it.
Predicting Civil War is not the same as promoting Civil War. It's sort of like when Scott Adams offered to debate the political Left about racism and they auto-accused him of BEING racist and then ruined his cartooning career out of viciousness and because they could.
Correct, it is not. Proudly proclaiming/threatening to begin a second civil war complete with the reminder that "we're the ones with all the guns" would pretty much fall under the category of promoting.
“In many states, open carry or concealed carry at rallies is perfectly legal. Exercising a constitutional right isn’t automatically intimidation — it’s just citizens using freedoms guaranteed by law.”
He didn't, he debated with university students, who are supposed to be learning to think and debate in university, not how to parrot unsubstantiated talking points.
No to mention the fact there are plenty of uni students who are older than him.
“I agree — we don’t do violence, that’s not the answer. But I can’t agree that simply exercising your rights means you ‘deserve’ violence. Living by the law isn’t living by the sword.”
“We probably won’t convince each other, but I respect your right to your view just like mine. Thanks for the exchange.” And also I agree that we cannot change the world we live in, because some people choose violence.
“In America, disagreeing with someone doesn’t make it ‘hate speech.’ That label gets thrown around anytime a conservative speaks. Debate means hearing things you don’t like.”
See what’s wrong with your view if you consider all leftist bad and that we praise killers when in reality we don’t I don’t think that all conservatives wanna f their cousins
So why should you think that about lefts